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Airline Share Charts
« on: November 10, 2018, 12:28:25 pm »
Hello, the airline share pie charts on the airport pages no longer say which airline has each percentage. Thank you!

 

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Re: Airline Share Charts
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2018, 12:41:18 pm »
Does it still happen after a forced browser refresh? (shift + f5) ?

BTW i recommend Firefox/chrome as browser choice for this game :)

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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2018, 12:49:03 pm »
Does it still happen after a forced browser refresh? (shift + f5) ?

BTW i recommend Firefox/chrome as browser choice for this game :)

It's been like that since you optimized LinkStatisticsSource, see my last PR
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2018, 01:13:29 pm »
Does it still happen after a forced browser refresh? (shift + f5) ?

BTW i recommend Firefox/chrome as browser choice for this game :)

It's been like that since you optimized LinkStatisticsSource, see my last PR

Ah! You are right!

A fix is applied - many thanks again!

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2018, 01:17:48 pm »
Does it still happen after a forced browser refresh? (shift + f5) ?

BTW i recommend Firefox/chrome as browser choice for this game :)

It's been like that since you optimized LinkStatisticsSource, see my last PR

Ah! You are right!

A fix is applied - many thanks again!
Awesome, now test out PR 84   ;D
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Re: Airline Share Charts
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2019, 06:49:26 pm »
I have another issue concerning these Airline Share Charts  on the country profile pages. My airline flies to a country (Gabon), in which according to the pie chart four other airlines fly. Now even though I fly there for many months and on every flight there are passengers, my airline does not show up in the Chart. Why?

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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2019, 07:23:42 pm »
I have another issue concerning these Airline Share Charts  on the country profile pages. My airline flies to a country (Gabon), in which according to the pie chart four other airlines fly. Now even though I fly there for many months and on every flight there are passengers, my airline does not show up in the Chart. Why?

You only have arrivals in Gabon (people going TO Gabon), only departing passengers are counted for the country champ. points.

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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2019, 09:17:11 pm »
When you go to the route details screen you can also click on the little pie chart next to 'History' where it will show you where the passenger originate from.

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2019, 05:42:50 pm »
Thank you for your explanations! That was an aspect I didn't pay really attention until now. This concept of TO and FROM seems a bit odd for me, as most passengers after travelling from A to B will travel back from B to A, at least in real life.

How are the shares of To and FROM passengers determined, especially in a case like this one, where I am the only one who provides this connection? Has it to do with loyalty and/or awareness?

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2019, 04:14:04 pm »
Thank you for your explanations! That was an aspect I didn't pay really attention until now. This concept of TO and FROM seems a bit odd for me, as most passengers after travelling from A to B will travel back from B to A, at least in real life.

How are the shares of To and FROM passengers determined, especially in a case like this one, where I am the only one who provides this connection? Has it to do with loyalty and/or awareness?

You are right and all the pax in this game do round trips.

TO and FROM in this game is more of the concept of the flow from the home town to the destination city a pax is visiting

Therefore a pax from New York that take a transit flight via San Francisco to Tokyo , will be considered as taking a flight from New York TO SFO, and then SFO to tokyo. Even though eventually he would travel backwards for the returning flight.

This is useful to differentiate the "source" of the pax. For example for tourist destination, you will see a lot of "TO" pax to that airport but fewer "FROM", as most travelers are "visitors" instead of residents of that tourist destination

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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2019, 07:00:13 pm »
Thank you for your explanations! That was an aspect I didn't pay really attention until now. This concept of TO and FROM seems a bit odd for me, as most passengers after travelling from A to B will travel back from B to A, at least in real life.

How are the shares of To and FROM passengers determined, especially in a case like this one, where I am the only one who provides this connection? Has it to do with loyalty and/or awareness?

You are right and all the pax in this game do round trips.

TO and FROM in this game is more of the concept of the flow from the home town to the destination city a pax is visiting

Therefore a pax from New York that take a transit flight via San Francisco to Tokyo , will be considered as taking a flight from New York TO SFO, and then SFO to tokyo. Even though eventually he would travel backwards for the returning flight.

This is useful to differentiate the "source" of the pax. For example for tourist destination, you will see a lot of "TO" pax to that airport but fewer "FROM", as most travelers are "visitors" instead of residents of that tourist destination

Hm, I understand, but don't get the logic completely. On all the international routes on which I fly without competition and without alliance connections, a majority of the passengers, often a clear majority, are from my HQ-country. And that even though the destination country is wealthier. Are people just more likely to fly with their "national airline" and the people at the foreign country stay at home, if the connection is not operated by a company from their country? Is it the different loyalty, which of course is higher at my HQ than at my destination airports?

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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2019, 11:17:49 am »
Thank you for your explanations! That was an aspect I didn't pay really attention until now. This concept of TO and FROM seems a bit odd for me, as most passengers after travelling from A to B will travel back from B to A, at least in real life.

How are the shares of To and FROM passengers determined, especially in a case like this one, where I am the only one who provides this connection? Has it to do with loyalty and/or awareness?

You are right and all the pax in this game do round trips.

TO and FROM in this game is more of the concept of the flow from the home town to the destination city a pax is visiting

Therefore a pax from New York that take a transit flight via San Francisco to Tokyo , will be considered as taking a flight from New York TO SFO, and then SFO to tokyo. Even though eventually he would travel backwards for the returning flight.

This is useful to differentiate the "source" of the pax. For example for tourist destination, you will see a lot of "TO" pax to that airport but fewer "FROM", as most travelers are "visitors" instead of residents of that tourist destination

Hm, I understand, but don't get the logic completely. On all the international routes on which I fly without competition and without alliance connections, a majority of the passengers, often a clear majority, are from my HQ-country. And that even though the destination country is wealthier. Are people just more likely to fly with their "national airline" and the people at the foreign country stay at home, if the connection is not operated by a company from their country? Is it the different loyalty, which of course is higher at my HQ than at my destination airports?

There are many factors that might affect that. The easiest way is to click through the "passenger Map" to understand the flow of passengers and where are they from (click it several times to rotate through all the options)

To list just a few factors that might have caused that:
1. The destination airport is a tourist spot (with high tourist charm)
2. Higher loyalty values in the from airports
3. Higher awareness  in the from airports
4. Stronger network of in ur from airport
5. Other transits (pax takes transit even if it's from different airline/alliance, just less willing)

It really is a mix of many things - for example if u have better network say 10 domestic routes, and then one IC. then all those 10 other domestic airports will have higher loyalty and aware towards your airline, hence pax there will be more likely travel with ur airline vs pax from other countries

Again, observe the passenger Map can probably answer most of the questions

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2019, 11:34:00 am »
There are many factors that might affect that. The easiest way is to click through the "passenger Map" to understand the flow of passengers and where are they from (click it several times to rotate through all the options)

Oh wow, it did not realise that you can click the "view passenger map"-button several times!!! Guess that's new for many!

Nevertheless, in my case it probably is mostly about loaylty and awareness then. As I am not operating in a fully open market country, my connection maps look mostly like this: