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Posted by: patson
« on: February 27, 2020, 03:06:57 pm »

Hi guys,

Relatively new to the game but loving it and the community so far.

I do hope this is the right thread to suggest an edit to any particular aircraft. Starting as a small regional (and having an aviation background) I was comparing the SAAB 2000 to the ERJ 135/140/145 family. Firstly the stated cruise speed of the 2000 is 665km/h which is higher than what the game currently has it as. Next was ref fuel burn. The fuel burn for the 2000 is higher than the ERJ's. I think that might not be the case. I know for a fact that Eastern Airways dropped their ERJ 140s for SAAB 2000's due to a higher fuel efficiency than the ERJ family.

Hopefully I've not got the wrong end of the stats here then.

Keep up the great work!

/S

EDIT: Have read the Fuel re work post and now understand this is more of a cost to operate, rather than fuel burn. Possibly still should favour the 2000 rather than the ERJ's?

hehe welcome to the game!

Poor Saab 2000 does need some love but then fokker 50 is even worse...i will ponder about some minor tweaks, no guarantees tho...cause it's like a chain reaction if i change one model then i will likely need to adjust a few more XDD
Posted by: SebNob
« on: February 27, 2020, 04:29:59 am »

Hi guys,

Relatively new to the game but loving it and the community so far.

I do hope this is the right thread to suggest an edit to any particular aircraft. Starting as a small regional (and having an aviation background) I was comparing the SAAB 2000 to the ERJ 135/140/145 family. Firstly the stated cruise speed of the 2000 is 665km/h which is higher than what the game currently has it as. Next was ref fuel burn. The fuel burn for the 2000 is higher than the ERJ's. I think that might not be the case. I know for a fact that Eastern Airways dropped their ERJ 140s for SAAB 2000's due to a higher fuel efficiency than the ERJ family.

Hopefully I've not got the wrong end of the stats here then.

Keep up the great work!

/S

EDIT: Have read the Fuel re work post and now understand this is more of a cost to operate, rather than fuel burn. Possibly still should favour the 2000 rather than the ERJ's?
Posted by: Morb
« on: February 24, 2020, 11:42:25 am »

Spoiler (hover to show)

There you go, copy it and create a new text document which you save as ".csv", then you can open it with excel. I would have attached it, but the upload folder of the forum is full :D
Posted by: Masticon
« on: February 24, 2020, 10:22:32 am »

I used to be able to copy the airplane purchase table and paste it into an excel document. That doesn't seem to be working. Do you have an available spreadsheet with the new plane data available?
Posted by: patson
« on: February 23, 2020, 12:15:43 pm »

Yes I have made adjustments. Please check https://imgur.com/a/hQTHc4L and see whether it's better now? :)
Posted by: Cleared2land
« on: February 23, 2020, 12:03:08 pm »

That's understandable. I have not checked all the new model data, but at least for 737 MAX 9 the fuel burn was reduced a lot, from 966 to 805.
With so many new models there can be some very similar planes or at least the 737 and 320 family should be. Let it be a question of popularity when it comes to these two  ;)
Posted by: patson
« on: February 23, 2020, 11:37:37 am »

That'a long list!!!  8)
Please try to update data for A320NEO family and make it comparable to 737MAX. You have made 737MAX8 and MAX9 too good now. 737s and 320s are a backbone of many player's fleet...

Thanks!

Yes I will look at the list later today and make adjustments.

One thing i try to avoid tho is to make changes to existing models
Posted by: patson
« on: February 23, 2020, 11:36:51 am »

I checked the code to see how the changes in airplane models would affect my planes' depreciation and I found the code I copied below. Because of the change in the price of the 96-400s, their current values are going to be depreciated a **** ton more based on the model's new value. This would mean that it's value would eventually reach zero or negative before they are renewed and it'd be possible that we're going to pay much more than list price to renew this plane. Please have a look

Code: [Select]
  def computeDepreciationRate(model : Model, decayRate : Double) = {
    val depreciationRate = (model.price * (decayRate / 100)).toInt
    depreciationRate
  }
 
  def decayAirplanesByAirline(airplanesWithAssignedLink : Map[Airplane, LinkAssignments], owner : Airline) : List[Airplane] = {
        ...
       
        val newCondition = airplane.condition - decayRate
        val depreciationRate = computeDepreciationRate(airplane.model, decayRate)
        val newValue = airplane.value - depreciationRate
       
        updatingAirplanes.append(airplane.copy(condition = newCondition, depreciationRate = depreciationRate, value = newValue))
    }
    updatingAirplanes.toList
  }

Good catch! I will patch the DB and increase the value of those existing airplanes. Many thanks!
Posted by: Cleared2land
« on: February 23, 2020, 09:54:04 am »

That'a long list!!!  8)
Please try to update data for A320NEO family and make it comparable to 737MAX. You have made 737MAX8 and MAX9 too good now. 737s and 320s are a backbone of many player's fleet...
Posted by: Tjmoores
« on: February 23, 2020, 09:04:41 am »

Hey, I've got a couple of suggestions if you're thinking of adding any (although the list is pretty long as is!):

In Production
IL114-300

Out of production, in service
BAe Jetstream 41

Production beginning 2021 EDIT - these should be in production approximately the same time as the MRJ, which is included so theoretically these should be too?
Irkut MC-21 (-200 & -300)
Comac C919

The rest are looking good and look to cover pretty much everything! (Apart from business jets which could be fun to see at some point but it's understandable if you don't want to add them)
Posted by: T
« on: February 23, 2020, 09:01:13 am »

I checked the code to see how the changes in airplane models would affect my planes' depreciation and I found the code I copied below. Because of the change in the price of the 96-400s, their current values are going to be depreciated a **** ton more based on the model's new value. This would mean that it's value would eventually reach zero or negative before they are renewed and it'd be possible that we're going to pay much more than list price to renew this plane. Please have a look

Code: [Select]
  def computeDepreciationRate(model : Model, decayRate : Double) = {
    val depreciationRate = (model.price * (decayRate / 100)).toInt
    depreciationRate
  }
 
  def decayAirplanesByAirline(airplanesWithAssignedLink : Map[Airplane, LinkAssignments], owner : Airline) : List[Airplane] = {
        ...
       
        val newCondition = airplane.condition - decayRate
        val depreciationRate = computeDepreciationRate(airplane.model, decayRate)
        val newValue = airplane.value - depreciationRate
       
        updatingAirplanes.append(airplane.copy(condition = newCondition, depreciationRate = depreciationRate, value = newValue))
    }
    updatingAirplanes.toList
  }
Posted by: patson
« on: February 23, 2020, 12:47:51 am »

Please see the screenshot!

https://imgur.com/a/UM6GU6C