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Version 2 Suggestions / Route Negotiation and Delegates
« Last post by Underwhelmed on February 22, 2021, 03:25:23 pm »
Hi,

First, let me say that Version 2 looks great and is clearly a labor of love. I think the new strategic investment options and events will really liven the game up and add longevity!

One suggestion I'd like to make is to reconsider how negotiating a route currently works. Right now, you select a route, pick enough delegates for a good chance of success, and then either succeed or not. In my opinion, setting up routes would benefit from having a range of possible outcomes instead of a binary pass/fail. As a new airline, it really does feel terrible to fail. You end up locking up a good portion of your delegates with nothing to show for it and there's no guarantee of success the next time either... meanwhile, that aircraft you purchased as a prerequisite is just sitting there and losing money. This is compounded by the fact that each aircraft can now serve multiple routes, so scaling flights up to achieve 100% aircraft utilization can be lengthy. Furthermore, if you've got delegates locked up running a campaign or improving relations, there are some routes that can be impossible to establish. I admit I cheated a little by declaring bankruptcy 3 times before I got my first route just because I didn't want to wait for weeks to try again.

I have some suggestions that I hope you'll consider:

  • Allow negotiations without purchasing the plane first... Perhaps only the aircraft model or flights/passenger volume needs to be specified?
  • Instead of outright failure, allow a range of outcomes. It seems like the current system has delegates serve as dice and their rolls add up to a score - if you roll higher than the target, you succeed, and if not, you fail. I'd propose varying the airport fees and flight slots - if you roll low, you get high fees and few slots and vice versa. This also adds a dimension of balancing between quantity and quality of your routes. As the airline gets up and running, this also allows for the possibility of renegotiating for better rates.
  • Allow negotiations to be undertaken with fewer delegates but longer time commitment, or vice versa. So maybe a contract requires 12 delegate-weeks to sign - somebody could assign one delegate for 12 weeks, or three delegates for 4 weeks, etc. Or a total dice roll of 36 to achieve, and each delegate accumulates one roll a week - if you roll high, you get better terms?
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Dear all
I wish to highlight the following "roadblock" to a successfully growth IMHO:
I do not understand the principles behind the "airport upgrade". I am a small start up, just "regional"...but to improve my service, quality and more over number of flights, I have to pay more than 17M (!!!) and, if I am lucky, It will take "ages" to have those money in my account.
Why have this huge gap? Why not think to a "gradual" progression in order to help start up airlines to build new offices and facilities with a lower amount of money?
Just to understand if the is a possible way  ??? ::) :-[ :-\
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General Discussion / Re: Noob alert
« Last post by russellfire on February 19, 2021, 03:35:45 am »
thank you very much, will be very helpful. all routes are green now and at 100 %, have 3 aircraft so far, so a long way to go, but pace of the game suits me.

Good luck

Russell
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Version 2 Suggestions / Have country relations affect Staff Requirement
« Last post by GoWest on February 19, 2021, 02:59:18 am »
Country relations already affect negotiation (I still think they could affect a little more), but what about affecting the staff requirement of the routes as well? It makes sense that domestic routes have a lower requirement, but within bery close countries, it doesn't make sense to have the same staff requirment as flying the neutral countries.
European market should have very close relations and it should reflect on the staff requirements there.
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General Discussion / Re: Noob alert
« Last post by akilles on February 18, 2021, 11:34:03 pm »
Hi. I am very new as well but i figure I can still help with this. When i started a few weeks ago all my routes were red too. I think this is due to your airline reputation and service quality being so low. I dont know if this is the best plan but it worked for me.

- Lower ticket price. You can raise it back up again in a couple days. The lower price will help attract customers which will increase your airline reputation.
- I didn't fly fewer than  3 flights a week to any airport. I think more consistent flights will also help build the loyalty and awareness of your airline at the destination.
- Under the office tab there is a gear next to a field called Target Service Quality. I typed in 10 and clicked the green check mark  to accept the new value. Overtime, but relatively quickly, your airline service quality will increase to match this value. Start small as the higher numbers will be costly.
- After a day or so I went back and started bumping up my prices a click or two. If my utilization stayed at 100% I bumped it up again.
- I started with the Embraer EMB120 Brasilia plane. Im not sure if its "best" but it was the first one that had a lot of people using it.
- Initially I stayed away from routes with competition but i've found that its entirely possible to still fill all my capacity on routes with lots of other people. Probably because I am still so small but point is, dont be afraid of good routes with competition.

I was in the red for a little while but soon the higher awareness and service quality let me bump up my prices to the point where i was making money.

Hope that helps a little bit!
-Vulkan Airlines
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Version 2 Updates / Re: Proposed Airplane changes
« Last post by RogueAir on February 18, 2021, 05:10:07 pm »
I feel like small should cover aircraft larger than 50 seat, should cover more of the regional jet market. I'd say small should be to at least to 91pax (since the dash 8 q400 isn't medium), maybe up to 108 so medium starts with the F100?

Otherwise you're left with a gulf in the middle, with nothing between 51 and 133 seats available if I want to get the discount

Just my 2 cents. Really like the hanger UI, makes it easier to navigate. And the discount for loyalty is kind of fun and encourages type efficiency (ex B6 or WN in the real world)
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Version 2 Updates / Next reset (updated Feb 17)
« Last post by patson on February 17, 2021, 10:51:54 pm »
Hi all

Next planned reset on V2 will be on Feb 18 (Thu) 10:00 pm PST

Thanks!
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General Discussion / Noob alert
« Last post by Russellfire366 on February 17, 2021, 06:30:32 pm »
been playing for about 6 hours now, enjoying it but getting too many red routes,

any help will be hugely appreciated

Russell
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General Discussion / Re: Beginner's guide
« Last post by patson on February 16, 2021, 08:46:22 pm »
Dear all
I am at first step in the "Airline Club" world.
I have some doubt...hope you may clarify as I ma not able (sorry!!!) to find a complete tutorial or stop by step help.
1 - I choose my airport's HQ
2 - I buy a plane (Fokker 100) with a "4 week delivery": Does it means I have to wait 4 (virtual) weeks before to get in fleet?
3 - I open 4 routes however I sit not see any figures; This is because I still do not have received the aircraft?
4 - I have enough money to buy a second aircraft....Why I am not authorized to do that? Why I can NOT buy "used" aircraft?
5 - Where I may find a list of my aircrafts? ordered, in fleet, stored...there is a "virtual" hangar with all those informations?
Sorry for all the questions and thanks a lot for your support

Welcome to the game!

- 4 weeks means 4 virtual weeks, usually that translate to around 4 hours RL time
- U didn't see figures - probably due to the an issue we had earlier on that the simulation is not progressing. It should be fixed now?
- If u hover over the disabled "buy/order" icon, it should tell u the reason - likely that u cannot own more than x different airplane family when your airline grade is too low
- U can find ur airplanes in the Airplanes table, u have to select the model first and one the right side u can choose inventory/base then u can see your stock. u can also sort the airplanes list on the last column and it should show the numbers u owned/under construction etc
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